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James Souter

Discussion in Genealogy Forum started by Tony Suter, Feb 5, 2015

Feb 5, 2015

Tony Suter

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Trying to find the parents of James Souter born abt.1730.

James married Jane Durman a widow of Terwick on 9th Oct.1754 by Banns at Terwick.

James's Occupation in 1754 was a Maltster of Froxfield, Hampshire.

Kind Regards

Tony Suter

Feb 6, 2015

Edward Brooke

Personally, I cannot help you, Tony, except to suggest that - if you have not already done so - you might research Terwick, in Sussex.

Whilst I am not an authority on changing county borders I feel quite sure that Terwick was never in Hampshire.

Ted

Feb 6, 2015

Tony Suter

Personally, I cannot help you, Tony, except to suggest that - if you have not already done so - you might research Terwick, in Sussex. Whilst I am not an authority more ...

on changing county borders I feel quite sure that Terwick was never in Hampshire. Te

Thank you for your reply Ted,

Like you I also know that Terwick is in Sussex and not in Hampshire. I was asking the question does anyone know the names of James Souter's parents, I mentioned that James Souter married Jane Durman widow of Turwick in 1754 as extra information to see if anyone new of a record of the marriage that would have a parents name on it.

Kind Regards

Tony Suter

Feb 6, 2015

Edward Brooke

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Thank you for your reply Ted, Like you I also know that Terwick is in Sussex and not in Hampshire. I was asking the question does anyone know the names of James Souter's parents, I mentioned that more ...

James Souter married Jane Durman widow of Turwick in 1754 as extra information to see if anyone new of a record of the marriage that would have a parents name on it. Kind Regards Tony Sute

Feb 8, 2015

Robesur

Marriage records of 1754 do not give any family details for the participants, all it will give is the parish of residence, and there should be the signatures of at least two witnesses who could be relatives and traceable. Does the marriage details give any parish of residence other than Terwick for James Souter, if so this could be the parish of his birth.

There is a baptism at Heyshott Sussex for a James Sowter, 17 May 1828, parents Nicholas and Ann. Heyshott is about 5 miles SE of Terwick.

Feb 8, 2015

Tony Suter

relatives and traceable. Does the marriage details give any parish of residence other than Terwick for James Souter, if so this could be the parish of his birth. There is a baptism at Heyshott Sussex for a James Sowter, 17 May 1828, parents Nicholas and Ann. Heyshott is about 5 miles SE of Terwick

Thank you Robesur for your reply, sadly I don't have a record of birth for James Souter.

I have been on the Ancestry site and the only near match is an entry for the birth of James Souter b 6th Oct.1728 Beaksbourne, Kent.

His Father also named James.

I have a record of marriages for Froxfield and Steep people and it reads as follows.

9th Oct. 1754 James Souter Maltster of Froxfield Jane Durman widow of Terwick- Terwick (By Banns 2-16-30 June).

Witnesses- William Chase-Richard Pannall.

Does this info help at all.

Kind Regards

Tony Suter

Feb 9, 2015

Robesur

Thank you Robesur for your reply, sadly I don't have a record of birth for James Souter. I have been on the Ancestry site and the only near match is an entry for the birth of James Souter b 6th more ...

Oct.1728 Beaksbourne, Kent. His Father also named James. I have a record of marriages for Froxfield and Steep people and it reads as follows. 9th Oct. 1754 James Souter Maltster of Froxfield Jane Durman widow of Terwick- Terwick (By Banns 2-16-30 June). Witnesses- William Chase-Richard Pannall. Does this info help at all. Kind Regards Tony Sute

As Bekesbourne is about 100 miles from Terwick and Heyshott is only about 5 miles, I would favour the Heyshott James Soutar/Sowter as the more probable. You can find the Heyshott baptism on the LDS, Family Search site. If he was though living in Froxfield at the time of the marriage then that is also about 5 miles from Tewick but in the opposite direction, so there may be other possible baptisms that are not available online. Without searching every parish baptism record and every possible non conformist register you can not be certain and that is probably an impossibility as some records will be missing. I would say though that if someone wished to travel from Heyshott to Froxfield on a regular basis, he would have to pass through or close by Terwick, so there is a distinct possibility that this couple could have met each other, if he originated from Heyshott.

Your only hope of obtaining proof, is to find some documentary evidence indicating where your James Souter was born. If his father was fairly afluent he may have left a Will, in that case he may mention in that will his son John, wife and grandchildren and indicating occupations and places of abode. You therefore could search for Soutar Wills in Hampshire and Sussex around that period, in the hope that something shows

Feb 9, 2015

Tony Suter

Search site. If he was though living in Froxfield at the time of the marriage then that is also about 5 miles from Tewick but in the opposite direction, so there may be other possible baptisms that are not available online. Without searching every parish baptism record and every possible non conformist register you can not be certain and that is probably an impossibility as some records will be missing. I would say though that if someone wished to travel from Heyshott to Froxfield on a regular basis, he would have to pass through or close by Terwick, so there is a distinct possibility that this couple could have met each other, if he originated from Heyshott. Your only hope of obtaining proof, is to find some documentary evidence indicating where your James Souter was born. If his father was fairly afluent he may have left a Will, in that case he may mention in that will his son John, wife and grandchildren and indicating occupations and places of abode. You therefore could search for Soutar Wills in Hampshire and Sussex around that period, in the hope that something show

Thank you very much for your reply,

obviously I have been looking in the wrong place. I will certainly follow up on what you have mentioned and thank you again for your research.

Kind Regards

Tony Suter

Nov 24, 2015

Tony Suter

Dear Robesur, the last time we were in contact was in Feb. when I was trying to trace my ancestor James Suter, you kindly pointed out that the nearest match was a James Sowter who was born at Heyshott W.Sussex. I would just like to say a big thank you for pointing me in the right direction if it's not to late. I found out that you were spot on, James Suter spelt Sowter was b17th May 1727 at Heyshott W. Sussex he married Jane Durman who was a widow of Terwick Common. James's father was Nicholas Sowter from Easebourne who married Anne Hopkins at St. James Heyshott, they had 8 children, if you or anyone else would like any further information please get in touch.

Once again thank you.

Kind Regards

Tony Suter

Nov 24, 2015

Robesur

W.Sussex. I would just like to say a big thank you for pointing me in the right direction if it's not to late. I found out that you were spot on, James Suter spelt Sowter was b17th May 1727 at Heyshott W. Sussex he married Jane Durman who was a widow of Terwick Common. James's father was Nicholas Sowter from Easebourne who married Anne Hopkins at St. James Heyshott, they had 8 children, if you or anyone else would like any further information please get in touch. Once again thank you. Kind Regards Tony Sute

Hi Tony. Thanks for your message I am delighted that the information turned out to be of assistance. Sometimes it works out other times I miss the mark, it is nice to know that this time it was correct.

Rob