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Charlotte, Beverly and Roberts Segiens Paternal Side: The Segiens/Kleisners and Walsh/Twoomeys!!! Our ancestor Kazimierz Sagan, later known as Kasimir Segien in America, was born in the bohemian artsy village of Vilna, Russia, he resided in Petrokaw Poland, Russia prior to departing for America. Kasmir's mother was Anna Miller his father was Vincent Sagan and ship document state that Kasimir came to live with his mother Anna Miller's brother, which he noted on ship records to be Uncle I. Miller on Salem Street in Boston.. Kasmir spoke Yiddish and had a very strong accent. Salem Street through 1905 was predominantly Jewish. Kasimir's mother Anna Miller, his uncle I. Miller and the Miller family were Jewish. I believed the Sagan's were not Jewish but have been told by a scholar that the name is Jewish. His wife Stanislaus Kleisner was from Czestachowa Poland nearby Warsaw, she spoke about it often. It's the birthplace of the Black Madonna. She followed to America a year after Kasimir did, she travelled over with Kasimirs' cousin Franz Golownia. Franz later changed his name to Frank Sagan. He spelled it SAGAN. People always ask if we are related to Carl Sagan. The only thing I know is that Carl Sagan's father did come from a region nearby Vilna, another ghetto which bordered the forest of Belarus and we are likely related. According to his granddaughter Charlotte, Kasimir often spoke of his brothers back in Poland who he worried about, and he wore a black tie to remember them. We do not know their names or what they fought for but the next paragraph gives an idea of what was going on at the time he left for America around 1905. What was going on around the time Kasimir and Stanislaus left Poland? 1905. It was well before WW I. Alexander III had ruled with an iron fist when the workingclass led a strike at the Winter Palace in St. Petersburg that year, and 100 men were killed. It was called Bloody Sunday. This provoked massive strikes throughout Russia and the Russian Revolution began. Alexander's son Nicolas II took over rulership in 1905 and it was only the beginning of Rulership offering consessions to the people, who were up in arms throughout the Russian Empire. In Poland, the working class and pheasants were demonstrating against the Government also. The working class demanded improvement of their living conditions and political freedom. Poland was heading into a 4th Polish uprising agains the Russian Empire. Thousands had just lost thier jobs in 1904 due to the Russo-Japanese War. According to Herbert Segien who spent much time with his grandfather Kasmir, Kasmir fought in the Russo-Japanese war. He fought against the Japanese. We don't know why members of the families of Kasmir, The Sagans and Stanislaus, the Kleisner's, were against the marriage. According to her Stanislaus daughter Irene, Stanislaus father stemmed from Germany and her mother from Czestochowa Poland. Documents state her father was German. It may have been due to Kasimir being half Polish that they argued. You can find the story of what happened in later days in the ghetto of Vilna about 35 years after Kasimir departed from Vilna in the movie Defiance with Daniel Craig. It was filmed in Vilna. Walsh--"This name came to Ireland via British soldiers during the Norman invasion of Ireland and means “from Wales.” It’s derived from Breathnach or Brannagh." --Ancestry.com More of the names under Ellen Walsh. The Maternal Side: the Leblancs and the Walsh's Helen Walsh married Charles Segien. We grew up knowing that Helen's mother was Nellie Josephine Walsh, who married Leo Leblanc. when we came to Helen birth record it was sealed in Probate court. A woman at the archives peeked at the sealed record and told me mother was listed as Mary White. WOuld it be that Leo Leblanc was the father and Mary White was the mother? This is what we asked for a long time and then in 2011 we found records stating that the mother was in fact Mary Ellen Leblanc. We found that to be Nellie or Ellen Leblanc. Perhaps she was underage at the time she gave birth. The Leblancs came to Marlborough MA around 1884 due to a new railroad that ran through there and there was the Frye boot factory and other places to work in Marlborough MA. I've traced them back to Canada. Ellen Walsh came over to Boston via ship, her brother came before her. She always said she was from County Waterford, but her records show she was from Cork. It appears that one of her parents was from Waterford, the other from Cork, they were adjacent counties and she may well have lived in both. We know she was very young when she came here, maybe married at 15 which is what she told her granddaughter, but she didn't know her own birthdate, so she made it up!!!