A messy family tree

Discussion in Technical Forum started by Francisco Leovey, Aug 27, 2019
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Francisco Leovey
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My father and mother were second cousins, and their grandparents figure TWICE in the tree as if they were different people !!!

How can I fix this mess ??

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Les
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Delete the incorrect Grandfather and see what difference this makes

Regards

Les

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Francisco Leovey
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Delete the incorrect Grandfather and see what difference this makes Regards Les
There are no incorrect Grandfathers .... I wish you did not interfere with my question, that was sent to Tribal Pages, not you
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Les
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There are no incorrect Grandfathers .... I wish you did not interfere with my question, that was sent to Tribal Pages, not you
I only gave you a suggestion as you were not very clear.

I notice Tribal Pages does not understand you either.

I suggest tat you be more pleasant and a THANK YOU would be acceptable

All the best

Les

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Francisco Leovey
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I only gave you a suggestion as you were not very clear. I notice Tribal Pages does not understand you either. I suggest tat you be more pleasant and a THANK YOU would be acceptable All the best Les
TP did understand and I hope they can adjust the tree software.

Is that clear to you ?

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Les
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TP did understand and I hope they can adjust the tree software. Is that clear to you ?
Francisco as you can see Tribal Pages did not understand your very vague entry

You lied when you said the entry was for Tribal Pages only also the above, As it was an open entry which I gave a suggestion for it, only to get insulted by you, more than once..

If you do not understand T P ask correctly and politely

I see that you have now tried to give Tribal Pages more to work with

Hopefully for you it gets sorted. Just an off chance You Mother and Father have four Grandfathers between them.

All the best

Les

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We are not clear what you are asking of us. The names are not duplicated but will appear twice in ancestor charts because they are grandparents of your parents.
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Francisco Leovey
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We are not clear what you are asking of us. The names are not duplicated but will appear twice in ancestor charts because they are grandparents of your parents.
The names have to be shown ONLY ONCE, with 2 or more lines linking them to descendants who are from both families.

Look at any published family tree of some complexity and you will see what I need

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Alan Scott
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The names have to be shown ONLY ONCE, with 2 or more lines linking them to descendants who are from both families. Look at any published family tree of some complexity and you will see what I need
I have cousins who married cousins in my Tribalpages tree and the program is fine for that.
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Francisco Leovey
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I have cousins who married cousins in my Tribalpages tree and the program is fine for that.
The program may be fine but the printed charts are incorrect since they show TWICE the same person in different branches. The chart in these cases is more complicated and TP charts are incorrect for them
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Alan Scott
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The program may be fine but the printed charts are incorrect since they show TWICE the same person in different branches. The chart in these cases is more complicated and TP charts are incorrect for them
Now that you have explained better I can see what you are getting at. There is nothing wrong as far as I can see. A fact is a fact. They were cousins and the fan chart I bought up in my tree only shows the fact that they had related ancestors. Yes names do appear twice but that shows they had ancestors who were related. Thats the purpose of a family history tree, is it not. Nothing to hide. I am not sure if members will be able to see this chart I have generated but its a 5th generation Fancy Fan Chart (Vines) for Thomas Woolcock and Jane White. It is not messy. It is factual.

You still have not explained where the error is in Tribalpages charts. If there is another I have not located, please tell us more.
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Alan Scott
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The program may be fine but the printed charts are incorrect since they show TWICE the same person in different branches. The chart in these cases is more complicated and TP charts are incorrect for them
In case non Scott family members cannot view the link I showed in my previous message I have added a photo showing a Tribalpages provided ancestral and family chart for two cousins who are in my tree and who married each other. I personally don't see how this chart is "messy". It clearly shows factual information. However if anyone can come up with improvements I would think Tribalpages and members would be grateful. The chart shows the facts and leaving out any of the ancestors would not show the full picture. A cousin married a cousin and nothing wrong with that.
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Francisco Leovey
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In case non Scott family members cannot view the link I showed in my previous message I have added a photo showing a Tribalpages provided ancestral and family chart for two cousins who are in my tree more ...
and who married each other. I personally don't see how this chart is "messy". It clearly shows factual information. However if anyone can come up with improvements I would think Tribalpages and members would be grateful. The chart shows the facts and leaving out any of the ancestors would not show the full picture. A cousin married a cousin and nothing wrong with that
I never said that something is wrong about cousins marrying, those are your words.

The charts are messy because they show more people than what actually exist. Unless you are very into your ancestors, you will, by looking at a tree chart, believe there were 2 or more ancestors with the same name or that some parents named their offsprings with the same name.

A professional ancestor chart will NEVER show the same person TWICE on a chart.

I will not reply any more to non-TP answers as I think the solution is only in the hands of TP developers.

Is there any way to block non-TP answers ?

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Les
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I never said that something is wrong about cousins marrying, those are your words. The charts are messy because they show more people than what actually exist. Unless you are very into your ancestors, more ...
you will, by looking at a tree chart, believe there were 2 or more ancestors with the same name or that some parents named their offsprings with the same name. A professional ancestor chart will NEVER show the same person TWICE on a chart. I will not reply any more to non-TP answers as I think the solution is only in the hands of TP developers. Is there any way to block non-TP answers
As I told you at the out set.You did not put your message to Tribal Pages

You just became abusive.

If you would try to understand FORUMS and address these correctly, you may just get the answers from the addressee

I am still awaiting an apology from you

Regards

Les

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Alan Scott
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I never said that something is wrong about cousins marrying, those are your words. The charts are messy because they show more people than what actually exist. Unless you are very into your ancestors, more ...
you will, by looking at a tree chart, believe there were 2 or more ancestors with the same name or that some parents named their offsprings with the same name. A professional ancestor chart will NEVER show the same person TWICE on a chart. I will not reply any more to non-TP answers as I think the solution is only in the hands of TP developers. Is there any way to block non-TP answers
I see you will not reply to me which I don't mind. However I am interested in knowing where I can view an example of your so called "professional" ancestor and descendant charts showing cousins marrying cousins where some ancestor names don't appear twice. I would suggest they do not show much and certainly not the full picture. If you will not reply, can any other Tribalpages member reading this message please advise. Two people are not cousins unless they have common ancestors.
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Les
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I see you will not reply to me which I don't mind. However I am interested in knowing where I can view an example of your so called "professional" ancestor and descendant charts showing more ...
cousins marrying cousins where some ancestor names don't appear twice. I would suggest they do not show much and certainly not the full picture. If you will not reply, can any other Tribalpages member reading this message please advise. Two people are not cousins unless they have common ancestors
Hi Alan, I believe Cousins arethe children of your Mother or Farther s Siblings

All the best

Les

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Alan Scott
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I never said that something is wrong about cousins marrying, those are your words. The charts are messy because they show more people than what actually exist. Unless you are very into your ancestors, more ...
you will, by looking at a tree chart, believe there were 2 or more ancestors with the same name or that some parents named their offsprings with the same name. A professional ancestor chart will NEVER show the same person TWICE on a chart. I will not reply any more to non-TP answers as I think the solution is only in the hands of TP developers. Is there any way to block non-TP answers
Just to help you with your last question. The answer is not to write in MEMBERS FORUM. In "edit" mode under "help" you will see a link where you can contact TP and its separate from Forum.
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Francisco Leovey
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Just to help you with your last question. The answer is not to write in MEMBERS FORUM. In "edit" mode under "help" you will see a link where you can contact TP and its separate from Forum.
Yes I found the way to contact TP directly ... THANKS !
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Francisco Leovey
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We are not clear what you are asking of us. The names are not duplicated but will appear twice in ancestor charts because they are grandparents of your parents.
Please read my reply below to Alan Scott, it explains exactly what is wrong with the charts and how it should be fixed. Thank you
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Les
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Francisco to ensure who you mean and find out if you are talking about the same GRANDFATHER

Use RELATIONSHIPS on the menu and enter your Mum and the grandfather and see the relationship as T P has it . Then do the same with your Dad and compare. Remember you have four Grandfathers to do. You will then see if it is T P error or yours

Regards

Les

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Francisco Leovey
Francisco to ensure who you mean and find out if you are talking about the same GRANDFATHER Use RELATIONSHIPS on the menu and enter your Mum and the grandfather and see the relationship as T P has it more ...
. Then do the same with your Dad and compare. Remember you have four Grandfathers to do. You will then see if it is T P error or yours Regards Le
The error is yours for butting in