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Discussion in Genealogy Forum started by Kerry, Jan 30, 12:28 PM
K
Kerry
Sydney Daniel George Smith born 1882 died February 11, 1922 Woolwich England. Married Ethel Louisa Julia Berry. Was wondering if anybody could help me find Sydney's Parents, I have hit a wall.
R
Robesur
I see that an Ethel Louisa J Berry married in Marylebone London during the period April to June 1910 under the GRO reference, 1a, 1117 and one of the possible partners was a Sydney George Smith, so presumably this is your Sydney Smith.

Looking for them on the 1911 census, I can only see one Sydney and Ethel Smith who have been married under a year and that is a couple living at 19 Protheroe Street, Fernlea, Glamorgan in South Wales a long way from London or Woolwich which makes it rather doubtful that they are your couple. However this Sydney Smith (no other names or initials given was age 29 which seems correct and he gives Dartford Kent as place of birth which show there is a connection close to Woolwich. Edith is age 25 and gives Alverstoke Hants. as PoB, as you presumably have information on her, then if she fits there is a good chance that they may be correct.

I cannot see any births in Dartford around the early 1880s for either a Sydney (or Sidney) George or Daniel Smith, however there are some registered just Sydney (or Sidney) in Dartford or nearby. Second or further names are often added at baptism or later so any could be the one that you are looking for, there is one Sidney George Smith in the West Ashford district in Dec. 1882,but that is many miles from Dartford. There are also a number of possibles on the 1891 and 1901 census.

I suggest that you purchase a copy of the marriage certificate which should give Sydney's father's name and occupation, providing he knew his father, which may assist in spotting him on an earlier census, enabling you to narrow the search.

K
Kerry
I see that an Ethel Louisa J Berry married in Marylebone London during the period April to June 1910 under the GRO reference, 1a, 1117 and one of the possible partners was a Sydney George Smith, so more ...
presumably this is your Sydney Smith. Looking for them on the 1911 census, I can only see one Sydney and Ethel Smith who have been married under a year and that is a couple living at 19 Protheroe Street, Fernlea, Glamorgan in South Wales a long way from London or Woolwich which makes it rather doubtful that they are your couple. However this Sydney Smith (no other names or initials given was age 29 which seems correct and he gives Dartford Kent as place of birth which show there is a connection close to Woolwich. Edith is age 25 and gives Alverstoke Hants. as PoB, as you presumably have information on her, then if she fits there is a good chance that they may be correct. I cannot see any births in Dartford around the early 1880s for either a Sydney (or Sidney) George or Daniel Smith, however there are some registered just Sydney (or Sidney) in Dartford or nearby. Second or further names are often added at baptism or later so any could be the one that you are looking for, there is one Sidney George Smith in the West Ashford district in Dec. 1882,but that is many miles from Dartford. There are also a number of possibles on the 1891 and 1901 census. I suggest that you purchase a copy of the marriage certificate which should give Sydney's father's name and occupation, providing he knew his father, which may assist in spotting him on an earlier census, enabling you to narrow the search
Thanks for the help
RB
Robert Burns
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Sydney Smith in the 1891 England Census

Name: Sydney Smith [Sidney Smith]

Gender: Male

Age: 8

Relationship: Son

Birth Year: 1883 [1882]

Father: Henry Smith

Mother: Elizabeth Smith

Birth Place: Chesterton, Cambridgeshire, England

Civil Parish: St Andrews

Residence Place: Chesterton, St Andrews, Cambridgeshire, England

Sub registration district: Fulbourn

ED, Institution or Vessel: 1

Neighbors:

Piece: 1280

Folio: 8

Household Members:

Name Age

Henry Smith 46

Elizabeth Smith 42

William Smith 19

George Smith 16

Sydney Smith 8

Ethel Smith 6

Lilley Smith 4

Alice Smith 11/12

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Sydney Smith in the Birmingham, England, Church of England Baptisms, 1813-1912

Name: Sydney Smith

Age: 1

Birth Date: 30 Apr 1882

Baptism Date: 25 Jun 1883

Baptism Place: Aston Brook, St Mary, Warwickshire, England

Parish as it Appears: Aston Brook, St Mary

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Father: George Smith

Mother: Eliza Smith

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Sydney George Smith in the 1891 England Census

Name: Sydney George Smith

Gender: Male

Age: 8

Relationship: Son

Birth Year: 1883

Father: David Smith

Mother: Harriett Louisa Smith

Birth Place: Derbyshire, England

Civil Parish: Litchurch

Residence Place: Derby, Litchurch, Derbyshire, England

Sub registration district: Derby

ED, Institution or Vessel: 56

Neighbors:

Piece: 2735

Folio: 28

Household Members:

Name Age

David Smith 36

Harriett Louisa Smith 37

Henry Smith 13

David Smith 10

Sydney George Smith 8

Miranda Smith 6

George Smith 4

Edgar Smith

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Kerry
FOUND ON ANCESTRY.COM HOPE IT HELPS Sydney Smith in the 1891 England Census Name: Sydney Smith [Sidney Smith] Gender: Male Age: 8 Relationship: Son Birth Year: 1883 [1882] Father: Henry Smith more ...
Mother: Elizabeth Smith Birth Place: Chesterton, Cambridgeshire, England Civil Parish: St Andrews Residence Place: Chesterton, St Andrews, Cambridgeshire, England Sub registration district: Fulbourn ED, Institution or Vessel: 1 Neighbors: Piece: 1280 Folio: 8 Household Members: Name Age Henry Smith 46 Elizabeth Smith 42 William Smith 19 George Smith 16 Sydney Smith 8 Ethel Smith 6 Lilley Smith 4 Alice Smith 11/12 ALSO FOUND Sydney Smith in the Birmingham, England, Church of England Baptisms, 1813-1912 Name: Sydney Smith Age: 1 Birth Date: 30 Apr 1882 Baptism Date: 25 Jun 1883 Baptism Place: Aston Brook, St Mary, Warwickshire, England Parish as it Appears: Aston Brook, St Mary Search Photos: Search for 'Aston Brook, St Mary' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection Father: George Smith Mother: Eliza Smith ALSO FOUND Sydney George Smith in the 1891 England Census Name: Sydney George Smith Gender: Male Age: 8 Relationship: Son Birth Year: 1883 Father: David Smith Mother: Harriett Louisa Smith Birth Place: Derbyshire, England Civil Parish: Litchurch Residence Place: Derby, Litchurch, Derbyshire, England Sub registration district: Derby ED, Institution or Vessel: 56 Neighbors: Piece: 2735 Folio: 28 Household Members: Name Age David Smith 36 Harriett Louisa Smith 37 Henry Smith 13 David Smith 10 Sydney George Smith 8 Miranda Smith 6 George Smith 4 Edgar Smit
Just a little thanks for the help. It gives me another direction to explore.